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		<title>By: Anthony Manning</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthony Manning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 13:52:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting Jeffrey. I made electronic music for a few years, and now develop web applications, with a view to picking up the music again at some point. 

I built a task timer app some years ago and along with many other people decided to release it for public use, but really struggled with pricing. Last year the notion of adopting the tipping principle as a pricing strategy took hold in my brain, and, even though everyone I spoke to about it thought the idea was completely bonkers, I haven&#039;t been able to shake it.

Radiohead doing what they did acted as a complete affirmation of my hunch, and so users can pay what they feel comfortable with, on top of a flat absolute minimum monthly tariff.

It may well fall completely flat, but I&#039;m excited by the prospect of the experiment, and suspect that there will be enough users who enjoy the concept to make it worthwhile.

www.adderuppa.com

As for the music side of the argument, very few people involved in the music industry, that I know anyway, ever made enough money to live on under the &#039;traditional&#039; structure. If you go into the industry in order to make money you are in all probability setting yourself up for major dissapointment. 

People make music to say something. If what you are saying has enough of a resonance you will find that &#039;some&#039; people will get to hear it, and you might make enough money to buy some bread occassionaly. For me, the idea that just one person listened to what I made was enough of a buzz.

The fact technology now exists to disseminate your thoughts, musical or otherwise, and receive money directly without answering to any other party, is a revelation, and can only be celebrated.

In my humble opinion !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting Jeffrey. I made electronic music for a few years, and now develop web applications, with a view to picking up the music again at some point. </p>
<p>I built a task timer app some years ago and along with many other people decided to release it for public use, but really struggled with pricing. Last year the notion of adopting the tipping principle as a pricing strategy took hold in my brain, and, even though everyone I spoke to about it thought the idea was completely bonkers, I haven&#8217;t been able to shake it.</p>
<p>Radiohead doing what they did acted as a complete affirmation of my hunch, and so users can pay what they feel comfortable with, on top of a flat absolute minimum monthly tariff.</p>
<p>It may well fall completely flat, but I&#8217;m excited by the prospect of the experiment, and suspect that there will be enough users who enjoy the concept to make it worthwhile.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.adderuppa.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.adderuppa.com</a></p>
<p>As for the music side of the argument, very few people involved in the music industry, that I know anyway, ever made enough money to live on under the &#8216;traditional&#8217; structure. If you go into the industry in order to make money you are in all probability setting yourself up for major dissapointment. </p>
<p>People make music to say something. If what you are saying has enough of a resonance you will find that &#8217;some&#8217; people will get to hear it, and you might make enough money to buy some bread occassionaly. For me, the idea that just one person listened to what I made was enough of a buzz.</p>
<p>The fact technology now exists to disseminate your thoughts, musical or otherwise, and receive money directly without answering to any other party, is a revelation, and can only be celebrated.</p>
<p>In my humble opinion !</p>
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		<title>By: radiowalker</title>
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		<dc:creator>radiowalker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2007 00:11:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I appreciate the comments on how other bands lesser known could not pull this off, and am aware that others have already done this with much less attention. I still think this is very cool.

Software is fortunate to not have such a tremendously expensive distribution overhead compared to consumer products. Musicians [I am one although amateur] need to produce 100,00 transactions, or more vs. 100 or 1000. So the distribution is no analog to software.

But breaking out of conventional mindsets on pricing is, and pricing with the customer in mind is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I appreciate the comments on how other bands lesser known could not pull this off, and am aware that others have already done this with much less attention. I still think this is very cool.</p>
<p>Software is fortunate to not have such a tremendously expensive distribution overhead compared to consumer products. Musicians [I am one although amateur] need to produce 100,00 transactions, or more vs. 100 or 1000. So the distribution is no analog to software.</p>
<p>But breaking out of conventional mindsets on pricing is, and pricing with the customer in mind is.</p>
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		<title>By: Infovore &#187; links for 2007-10-20</title>
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		<dc:creator>Infovore &#187; links for 2007-10-20</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2007 23:19:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Why Radiohead Should Price Your Software « Radiowalker: Tech Business Beat &#8220;it’s the high price tags that invariably command a squadron of Suits whipping out their Powerpoint presentations and flying all over the place. That’s expensive, and customers are tired of it.&#8221; (tags: software sales business pricing) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Why Radiohead Should Price Your Software « Radiowalker: Tech Business Beat &#8220;it’s the high price tags that invariably command a squadron of Suits whipping out their Powerpoint presentations and flying all over the place. That’s expensive, and customers are tired of it.&#8221; (tags: software sales business pricing) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 10:57:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I couldn&#039;t agree more.. or is it less... yes but no...

http://www.theotherblog.com/Articles/2007/10/15/why-radiohead-should-price-your-software/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I couldn&#8217;t agree more.. or is it less&#8230; yes but no&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.theotherblog.com/Articles/2007/10/15/why-radiohead-should-price-your-software/" rel="nofollow">http://www.theotherblog.com/Articles/2007/10/15/why-radiohead-should-price-your-software/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tom Smith's the OTHER blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Smith's the OTHER blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 10:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] album yet&#8230; it&#8217;s not the principle, it&#8217;s the pricing structure&#8230; Why Radiohead Should Price Your Software « Radiowalker: Tech Business Beat   Filed under Uncategorized  having     Leave a [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] album yet&#8230; it&#8217;s not the principle, it&#8217;s the pricing structure&#8230; Why Radiohead Should Price Your Software « Radiowalker: Tech Business Beat   Filed under Uncategorized  having     Leave a [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Atkinson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam Atkinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 14:32:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quite true, Brett.  It&#039;s been no secret in the music industry that every  Rolling Stones album has failed to recoup costs over the past ten years.  They profit handsomely on the touring, so the album becomes a promo tool to generate media coverage...before the inevitable tour is announced. But if the Stones can&#039;t make a profitable record (and it would help if they were half listenable, these days) then what hope for the rest of the bands.  Madonna&#039;s deal with LiveNation is beginning to look very sensible indeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quite true, Brett.  It&#8217;s been no secret in the music industry that every  Rolling Stones album has failed to recoup costs over the past ten years.  They profit handsomely on the touring, so the album becomes a promo tool to generate media coverage&#8230;before the inevitable tour is announced. But if the Stones can&#8217;t make a profitable record (and it would help if they were half listenable, these days) then what hope for the rest of the bands.  Madonna&#8217;s deal with LiveNation is beginning to look very sensible indeed.</p>
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		<title>By: Brett Jackson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brett Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 13:23:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeffrey, I am reminded of the Grateful Dead&#039;s business model, one that has been around for quite a while: &quot;Give the music away for free and charge for the t shirts.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeffrey, I am reminded of the Grateful Dead&#8217;s business model, one that has been around for quite a while: &#8220;Give the music away for free and charge for the t shirts.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Brendan Lawlor</title>
		<link>http://radiowalker.wordpress.com/2007/10/11/why-radiohead-should-price-your-software/#comment-1938</link>
		<dc:creator>Brendan Lawlor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 10:10:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jens has an excellent point and one that I was making to friends recently: Radiohead are leveraging a fame acquired based on their having been signed in the past. They are one of my favourity bands, extremely talented both live and in the studio, but there are a lot of other good bands that would be totally ignored (in fact &lt;i&gt;are&lt;/i&gt; being totally ignored when the offer their music online (for whatever price).

Why? Because most consumers don&#039;t know how to find them. It will take clearing-house sites to broker a relationship between new bands and non-technical audiences, and what else would you describe such a space as if not the recording-company-without-the-recording-facilities. Are we looking at the worst of both worlds here? Somebody who takes a cut but doesn&#039;t provide the artistic and marketing support that a lot of young bands actually need?

Take a look at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sellaband.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;SellaBand&lt;/a&gt; for a completely different take on how young bands might get a start: in this case it&#039;s  a marketplace for funding. But the end prize is 50k worth of studio time and the dream is still &#039;getting signed&#039;. I think that there is every chance that the online music brokers will end up looking very much like the current recording labels. And , while running the risk of repeating myself, it&#039;s because most internet users depend on big, central brokers. Google Music, anyone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jens has an excellent point and one that I was making to friends recently: Radiohead are leveraging a fame acquired based on their having been signed in the past. They are one of my favourity bands, extremely talented both live and in the studio, but there are a lot of other good bands that would be totally ignored (in fact <i>are</i> being totally ignored when the offer their music online (for whatever price).</p>
<p>Why? Because most consumers don&#8217;t know how to find them. It will take clearing-house sites to broker a relationship between new bands and non-technical audiences, and what else would you describe such a space as if not the recording-company-without-the-recording-facilities. Are we looking at the worst of both worlds here? Somebody who takes a cut but doesn&#8217;t provide the artistic and marketing support that a lot of young bands actually need?</p>
<p>Take a look at <a href="http://www.sellaband.com/" rel="nofollow">SellaBand</a> for a completely different take on how young bands might get a start: in this case it&#8217;s  a marketplace for funding. But the end prize is 50k worth of studio time and the dream is still &#8216;getting signed&#8217;. I think that there is every chance that the online music brokers will end up looking very much like the current recording labels. And , while running the risk of repeating myself, it&#8217;s because most internet users depend on big, central brokers. Google Music, anyone?</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 05:02:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just bought a copy of the album, it&#039;s downloading now. What they lack in UI, they made up for in innovation. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just bought a copy of the album, it&#8217;s downloading now. What they lack in UI, they made up for in innovation. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: jensschumacher</title>
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		<dc:creator>jensschumacher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 20:30:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For sure this is the industries worst nightmare but it&#039;s also the industries own fault. Charging &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.theage.com.au/news/web/steal-music-nails-frontman-tells-fans/2007/09/18/1189881482912.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;whatever they want&lt;/a&gt; only  because fans would buy the record regardless of its cost enrages not only fans but also the artists. The same principle applies to software, you should charge what is reasonable for you and your customers. 

Unfortunately the Radiohead concept will only work for bands who are already popular and don&#039;t have to rely on the industry to put their name out there. But I can see this changing and with online distribution channels being so easily available, maybe there won&#039;t be a record industry in 10 years. 

The only chance they have is to hope that the internet and accompanied distribution channels follow the &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Who_Killed_the_Electric_Car%3F&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;electric car&lt;/a&gt; and quietly disappear, but wait... it might be a little late for that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For sure this is the industries worst nightmare but it&#8217;s also the industries own fault. Charging <a href="http://www.theage.com.au/news/web/steal-music-nails-frontman-tells-fans/2007/09/18/1189881482912.html" rel="nofollow">whatever they want</a> only  because fans would buy the record regardless of its cost enrages not only fans but also the artists. The same principle applies to software, you should charge what is reasonable for you and your customers. </p>
<p>Unfortunately the Radiohead concept will only work for bands who are already popular and don&#8217;t have to rely on the industry to put their name out there. But I can see this changing and with online distribution channels being so easily available, maybe there won&#8217;t be a record industry in 10 years. </p>
<p>The only chance they have is to hope that the internet and accompanied distribution channels follow the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Who_Killed_the_Electric_Car%3F" rel="nofollow">electric car</a> and quietly disappear, but wait&#8230; it might be a little late for that.</p>
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